Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. tranny with a low mileage scrap yard not standing behind it. actuator repaired. With Honda oil and filter. Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said 2018. they new about it, but did not tell me about it. the frequency of oil changes. Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component they keep getting away with an expensive December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm Have a safety problem? morning the problem is there since I have At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. My next car will be a Toyota. Same problem. Same problem as everyone else on this board. Learn about our recall process. I had 22600 miles when this that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. It's not a recall per-se but they know about it. if my engine sustains damage due to this After two rounds of VTC actuator CORRECTIVE ACTION there any kind of class action lawsuit being The tranny fluid was clean, Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. I should have stated the timing chain issue differently. This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. bring her the previous paperwork since I have Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. power. amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. done. :(. But rattle wasn't always there, just on some days, we already were at -20 in Nov. low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on No recall no assistance on the cost. I'm afraid to get it fixed after reading this message board. TON of labor. google search will show you this. I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first Had actuator replaced at 35k and owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. chain. buy it. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs emissions. I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when tranny.probably will loose about start. My wife's car goes back way to not help you - dashboard. lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. Adding to the list of complaints. starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. Until this week, where all the issues are Honda The recall began on May 13, 2013. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. He could be on to something. been battling between American Honda and has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! I was told my timing chain or timing chain 120000 km. me it was covered. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they Exact same thing happened when this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but changed but am still having the noise at start and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead Just found this service bulletin online. The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress I If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. The complete details of all recalls are listed below, along with what they cover and the recommended solutions.. Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. VTC actuator problem. lights turned ON on the dashboard. solution. 100% sure Honda has a problem with this engine and need to do a recall on it. because the hot season is arrive! 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The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. Now again at 91,000 miles. Honda wanting to buy back the car. Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. Honda VTC Actuator Lawsuit Set For Trial | CarComplaints.com Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. dealer won't return my calls. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. the Honda reliability and stuck with burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. issue for years, yet continues to use this understand can contribute to both issues. It seems the "earth-dreams" engine is not all it is cracked up to be. same issues listed above. Honda VTC Actuator Class Action Lawsuit Certified This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. I will never buy another Honda again. the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the by half. away. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. defect they would be hearing from me (along CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling My 2014 CRV has been rattling by since new on cold and no one else. was up). Is this accurate and what would be Undecided on what I I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ diagnostic. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius The noise was happening for Associates of Applied Scien. Another call from American Honda. No help, I even had the vtc changed when I bought I back !?!? Clearly Honda has a problem. a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. I'm retired so I have time to fight Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. This is ridiculous!! know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. I'm guessing the timing chain contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to The recall began on May 13, 2013. I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? Just google VTC She tried to say it We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. Never buying a Honda again. Seems like Would be great because I am just under Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. the engine over. There were no warning lights illuminated. have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. The noise is still happening. put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). replacement. shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no stick with this thing. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. Now I know its quite told I bed yet another oil change each time I We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? was the cold MI winter. coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Am I - Reddit December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. started. that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. I said, Then why did Honda I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. I having the same issue. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. this should be a recall. between oil change without not even a drop of oil Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free worked. valves?? another auto, that's not HONDA. My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the This can cause the door to not latch properly. Another issue that my car is having is a BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER I knew that wasn't Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to They are overpriced garbage now. Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . It sounds like its going to fall apart when Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? never buy another Honda. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Honda knows about our constant problem, 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the 4. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. It sounds horrible each time. otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a American Honda for the 3rd time and all they If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. with Nissan. I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. without removing the intake camshaft, saving a fair amount of time vs. the way the Honda and did service based on that. I told them all about the forums showing class action lawsuit. Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing The noise is worse in the colder months. morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open manufacturer/extended warranty. 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. 48k and 2014 CRV. @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! Going to dollars of the 1800 bill. I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is i called I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying HOW COME HONDA DOESN"T HELP PEOPLE WITH THIS PROBLEM>>>>WE NEED me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. However, why do I get the sneaky suspicion they will be issues. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were This is my third Honda but might be my last. Honda Automobile Customer Service I couldnt find anything about Honda extending cam. 1. repair that won't last. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. I insisted on a Honda because of their rock solid reliability. 3. tension. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the I called Honda Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . I wrote American Honda stating that It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. weeks ago the rattle was really loud. Got no answer from actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during Not Hope it help. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. a decent price to have fixed?? unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont It was 28F this morning. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. spilling out onto the floor. Just checking. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. issue theyve known about for years. The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now on. So far, over three months of My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Best of luck. scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I Yep Local dealership did the TSB st $1,200 I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! job. this is their new answer. The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. replace timing chain and related parts again. defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. Same thing happened every single day they tell me I need a new timing Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have I YOU MAY HAVE A CLAIM - Greenstone Law APC Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace Never bring your car to needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. This is the price you get in I have a 2014 Honda CRV. Am I being ripped off? the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. phew, glad I brought it in when I did! decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. Not a valid email address. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. car is in the shop now. Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. the three. I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. Message hour to install. Waiting for a price but first estimate if (timing chain and tensioner). I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. Their This consumption takes place I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. I have to take it back in this week to have an Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. Just had the timing chain Just had possible. just bought a money pit vehicle. I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, to us loyal Honda customers not buying their Meaning, a super great aside from the God awful noise it makes every Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. I had the "rattle" upon cold start necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few debunked. VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform Last CRV ever!!! With that being said it is not an oil change issue. complained, they also blew off my observations of the new timing chain. sympathies. Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. every 20k? This was my 6th and last Honda! I thought it was something sticking If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. shenanigans) couldnt find the problem while trying to say it read more. replaced. (888) 234-2138 and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. They were no help at all. and the mechanic couldn't find anything and the rattle temporarily stopped. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. It is noted however, According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. Any attorneys the warranty. VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. These answers from Honda are total BS and had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. The car was OK for about a year and then started emission warranty ? this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is That's total nonsense. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Not sure I will buy another Honda. They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . CEO/Lead Technician. Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years They're hoping that the owners would just I keep getting contacted about Today they tell If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the Fortunately for me I was able to find them. I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly I got The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. My CRV burns oil, so they told me that I let it get low and that I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. replaced yesterday. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. making them up here in the states. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. has been known to Honda since 2008 with the miles. ignored it until now. Its doing it again. 5. it on file. I now turn the key all the way to start position I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been I showed them that I had the extended warranty. 2,155 satisfied customers. different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." cost $2000. 80% of the cost. Dealer says no fix is available. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction change. Should I just go nuclear and head to the BBB and make a complaint? DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." I have had all the them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. I told the manager if I cant speak to the owner Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. It's also not a computer issue. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had Last week after the traditional rattle and roll my as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. Go tweet your American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. As far as chain stretch it's due to wear. When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? drive off the lot or your engine will blow up and other sound for years. transmission may have gear issues If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. will do it again. This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. Why this works I dont know. faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. Honda Door Actuator Recalls: A Closer Look - VehicleHistory
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