For example, my first ex BF married to the woman, who was his course mate. My Venus conjunct his north node in 12 Pisces , and his Venus conjunct my vertex on desc ..From my part, I felt the karmic connexion.I was sure I need to do something with him, teach him something, Learn something from him..and I felt the sexual attraction also ( we have Sun/Pluto in 8 Scorpio) but,guess what? Thanks for being so detailed. I've noticed a few times I have had this placement with somone I care very deeply about, but for some reason the feelings are never mutual. Its possible the blind spot is yours, not his. Negatively, the planet person can use any of these fears as a way to control them, manipulate them or to use against them in some way. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 And for that I am sorry you had to experience that. just keep on going in the OPPOSITE direction away from me as FAR AS YOU CAN!! Having someones sun in your 12th though, I dont believe it is a nice experience for the planet person, especially a fire sun. Im stuck. I have my Venus in my would-be partners 12th House conjunct his Moon along with my Sun on the cusp of his 12th, his Sun is partially in my 12th House, his Neptune is in my 5th House conjunct my Mercury, and my Moon is in his 4th House conjunct his Mercury, Mars, and Jupiter. He left few weeks after we met for a travel for six months. Where their intention was not to help but to hurt. You will also find you share many of the same values, interests, and likes. I never know what hes thinking, which is rare for me. I guess the best way I can describe it is as if it's partially a dream. He told me he loved me so many times and then took it back, and he told me there are things he needs to work through. Trish how did you get over it!?! It is spiritual for both people, but sometimes this is why the relationships seem to be so painful if they end. As somebody with a 10th house stellium, including Mars, Moon, & Venus with Aries on the midheaven-if somebody fails to openly display their feelings for me, I'm gone. It's such a surreal feeling. But when I'm around him, it's like a physical stalemate. During the night I could feel his eyes, some times resting on me. Your email address will not be published. One thing for sure, 12th house relationships are Karmic. In other words he wanted us to remain in a hidden while he is married and has political career. The 12th house rules things. i did not have any dreams of them. Venus is the planet of love, beauty, romance, values, and finances. W. hen someone's Venus falls in your 1st house, that person probably finds you physically attractive. Venus the Goddess of love represents our love nature, our desires, our desire for the good things in life, our style, the way we act to attract, what we attract along with what we value and what we have or want. His Pluto squares my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Saturn and NN. The Ascendant person feels an unconditional love when the other one is around. But I have to work with him and Im afraid he can realize and maybe use this against me. But yet together telepathically and spirtually. This house holds many lifetimes of memories. And he keeps saying that he feels like he knows me for 100 years, so familiar, and that he just knows I would understand him no metter what. Sorry, Mr. Gemini . It's much like a therapist/patient relationship. To get this straight, the "he" you're speaking of is the 12th house person? Venus in the Houses in Synastry. Sometimes the experience in this house is painful other times it's purely magical. afterall i suspected him of being phony and saw a fakeness in his eyes.it's not that i have not learned from the previous lesson. Guess that his Sun/Gem didnt like me pursuing him, but he toyed with me from time to time as he was, natch, curious about how I worked. 6 Keeping the Flame Alive. JavaScript is disabled. Thinking this would help. His response have a huge impact upon me. Our fake fears you know, the what if's? It's like they can talk about everythng and anything and often don't even realize it. and NO MORE 12TH HOUSE PARTNERS FOR ME!! Love you, Elsa many thanks for this wonderful forum! Please also note that having Venus in the 12th means very little without a lot of context. I just recently met someone by accident online (a learning site.) It never went fully public (as in, while everyone knew we were together, we never met our friends or family). All of the guys whom I'm involved above have stellium especially benefic planets in my 12th house. i guess if the house person is non-scorpionic, or less-scorpionic perhaps, they won't run away scared because they feel they are exposed, lol If the house person is heavy-scorpio people, hmm don't even think aboutt having relationship with this peeps, they will ruuuuunnnn away asap no matter how much you mean to them. Explore the synastry between you and your partner Composite Chart / Synastry Report Bundle. Just count your blessings for the dance you experienced, and move on to someone/something new. What I have found in common is that they both were very aggressive, affectionate and attached to me at the beginning, but once after, i state to feel I dont know them or what their true intentions are, and left me somehow insecure and confused. He is not letting me go, he comes into my dreams, only to message me next day.The whole story is like a novel really, with me running after him through half of the world, and yet he never asked anything more of me than comfort. He was and is also a very adroit liar, and even though there was very great chemistry and connectedness between us, I had to end it. So Im confused about being confused lol Im dating someone all of our planets are 12th house but my natal chart is 12th house filled already.. everyone in his family knows about me and everyone in my family knows about him they know were also expecting a baby and so does social media lol .. But I still hope. This could be the unconditional kind of love people look for, its about whether or not you can handle it. His Moon is in my 12th House, and my Venus is in HIS 12th House, thus I felt captured by him. Yes gifts can be found, but contrarily mental illness, sexual issues, drugs and alchohol issues, you name it it's all here too. I started with an other guy, who is really good for me and is a good match. and in only one instance where the connection has lasted throughout many years with us now being friends, of sorts. He never forgot and it almost feels like he is watching me closely on social media. However I have to say until now he has been writing twice a year sending me wishes bday and Xmas. The 12th House!! But we do know a lot more about it than we did some time ago. Some are evil and just want to get in your pants. What he/she hates in something, i can see that they do the same thing, but they cant see it. Nonetheless it offers us the opportunity to heal karma, overcome our fears, uncover hidden talents and gifts, and to truly see the mystical, magical spiritual world. I FEEL like he's controlling his emotions for some reason unknown to me. Some are just hung up on their exes. But I guess with the 12th house influence I may never know. Oh lord: Hi, Steph sorry for the long delay in responding. What does it mean, and how does it affectthings? The Venus person will like the way you conduct yourself, your . There are times I don't trust him - through no actual fault of his own, btw - and others where I just feel loved in the most basic way. I feel like he's not being completely honest with me and himself about how he feels about me. My TWIN SIDE also is grateful, but is now more underground, and that may actually be a blessing, as I also began to mirror his BAD actions and ill temperaments. My Neptune is in my 10th house in Scorpio and since I guess I'm what they would call a "Pluto person" since I have so many (5) planets in my 8th house, maybe that would mean something? We've been seeing each other for over a month now. I felt I was led to believe they cared for me, and while showering me with attention, long distance no less, never told me they had feelings for someone else they were trying to avoid. Feel free to elaborate in the comments. I guess some things are just not meant to be. ------------------Air woman. Lol. Weekend Love Forecast Leo Moon Mood With Some Dramatic STYLE, Full Moon in Virgo: March 7, 2023 Mutable T-Square Distractions, Sign up to be notified when the blog updates. Each person shares secrets, and even unconsciously. Then when I tell him, he has this quiet way of breaking through all the **** and getting to the heart of it, but in a really gentle way. In a synastry chart, Venus in the 12th House can indicate a spiritual or karmic connection between the two individuals. He shows me he cares with actions and he has told me twice he is in love with me. hello, does anyone by any chance have any experience with venus being in the 12th house within synastry? As a rule, it is generally the house person who feels the energies the most. Thank you for any input/comments. No WONDER I cant get it on for long with my Gemini partners . I know I can read him more accurately than anyone else in his life and it scares him sometimes. I really like the Leo energy. Now, I broke off the friendship and he can't contact me. Their is so much fear between us. Sent 5 times a week. But how can I be sure.. its the 12th house.. Hi everyone (waving)!! NO THANKS!!! Does this mean that the love is just hidden, or doesn't really exsist at all and it's all in my imagination? I dont think I can give a uniform answer as to how planets behave in the other persons 12th house. which is terribly disturbing for anyone who doesnt want to face things. Hi,this is illuminating reading for me :)Recently one man has very special influence on me and his Sun, Mars, Moon and Mercury (although Mercury is very close to my Asc) fall in my 12th house.He just gets me like no one does, or ever did. It means he has an inner conflict going on that is psychological in nature. It proves that Venus is created for sharing purity, love, and spirituality in the world, when in a good state. You got bit BAD by the oh-so charismatic, elusive 12th Houser! like a Gemini (no offense meant) they are both good and evil, but THEIR Evil Twin often does the acting out. It was a relationship that brought up many subconscious issues for both, but also very intimate, we shared a lot of stuff wed never shared with anyone before. Im so sorry for the delay! I also cant tell you, definitively, how theyre experienced by the person who has their twelfth house activated. I have neptune (Sagitarius) in my 7th house with Gemini rising. If venus is strong and well aspected than here is deep emotional and truthworthy conection. Only because I feel his Mars in my subconscious,yelling at me to do better and not understanding that I dont respond well to that. It ended when I invited him to my fathers birthday and he just couldnt do it (insert childhood issue here). My 12th Houser actually taught and showed me the GEMINI IN ME that I was in denial of. It could be due to different things.. like the planet person is insecure/shy/doesn't wanna show their love in an open way, or just that the house person doesn't "get" the planet person's way of loving. We also have vertex conjuct Asc. Venus in 12th entirely depends on how well both people can handle Neptune. Venus conjunct Venus is really good, you will like many of the same things and go about love a similar way. If the person is a good person they can point out our weaknesses and bring them to light so we can move forward with the knowledge that they have to help us be more aware of our unconscious behaviors. Someone help Ive done so much research on this but I was with this guy for like a year and then he ghosted me, disappeared deleted all social media, but I still dream about him and think about him frequently and its been 3 years. To this some spice adds venus/neptune square. I mean your spirits are communicating with each other, that type of thing. I've also found when we fought and were out of touch, I could feel how upset and rattled he was when he couldn't reach me. As if something beyond ourself is guiding us.what is this shit, ive been asking me many many timesand is there a way to get over this?? Yes I do think that it's a possibility with his Neptune in your 12th its a very intuitive and psychic connection. Its like that alcoholics anonymous quote of acceptance of who you are thats why its not good for people to judge other people because they are not and never understand how to live in their shoes. We also share moon Conj Mars, moon and Pluto Conj & trine. so i point it out, and im more aware. it be TROUBLE at times, and very hard. Mars in the 3rd house overlay: This position for Mars in synastry, much like the 1st house position, can be very stimulating in either a positive or negative way.On the one hand, this position can stimulate a lot of invigorating conversation between the two, and the house person can appreciate how vocal and confident the Mars person is in their speech. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 The 12th house is mysterious, magical, elusive, highly psychic, spiritual, and the most interesting thing about it in synastry is that relationships with planets here tend to function mostly on a unconscious level, and even a whole other world entirely. And I do, I don't ever want to judge or criticize him. It's true this house can be heavy, it's the house of hospitals, psychotherapist, prisons, too. I love him, he opens me up to questions I would never put a name to but a part of me just wants to run away where he cant find me. Posts: 2196From: UranusRegistered: May 2011. Positively both can help the other overcome their fears, discover hidden talents, or gifts. I understand this. It means he needs to work through then and the only way to do this is to, effectively lie to you, so he can havevtgecspace he needs to work through his issues. He was so familiar, which I think it's because of the NN connections. The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. Yah, that 12th House synastry . Well you can imagine how the proposition to be his off-time mistress set with my Midhaven in Aries. HI, ELSA!! Howd you get over him and stop thinking about him? In the synastry between my husband and myself, my Mars and Saturn lands in his 12th house. He s got a new girl in his life and I wish him well! 12th house isnt only secrecy and I rarely see it that way 12th house synastry is beyond limits. But what made it all so compelling, is that I REMEMBERED HIM FROM TWO PAST LIVES when we were mates!! Generally when venus is other persons 12th house, its effect depends on is Venus strong by sign? Anyone else care to share? Uck. ouch ouch! Now i understand the mystery of the house that touch our soul. With him, it's never "goodbye," no matter what. It's all about 12th house. I would be very interested as always in hearing about any findings or further experience or information you can conjur up! On top of this, his Pluto is either square or conjunction my NN, Im pretty sure its the square. Am thankful that noting bad occurred from him, but there was the feeling that he could and would hurt me. someone's venus in my 12th, feel unconditional/boundless love for him. The twelfth house by its nature is diffuse and undefined. I wish you lick with your 12th Houser, but there is a saying that 12th House connections are doomed to fail at least at one point. So the conversations might be heavy and deep, or they are at least exposing of one whether good or bad. Here is a formula: Unless a guy acknowledges his feelings for you within a month, maybe 2 months (or 10+ dates) of serious dating openly, plainly, simply, without subtext, without mindgames or alternate plan Bs in his head,drop him. However, it was my Venus in his h12th. This happens for me with my Neptune in the 1st house I can take in people's feelings, illness or a array of different things that pass through me temporarily. Im also worried he is using me on many levels and though his words and actions say otherwise, I feel that this is at least partially true. Sadly, I was the house person and hopelessly in love, while the Venus person would not admit their feelings even though we both knew they did feel for me, just like I felt for them.. Actually, the guy told me "I love you, *insert my name here*" while we were in class, but we barely knew each other and I didn't know if he was being serious.. later on he denied it said it was a joke (but it wasn't). We were both unhappily married, I was her manager at work, she was head over heels for me immediately, I didn't even know she liked me for months. He scares me sometimes because he has a violent tendency and I think he activated my 12th house because all of a sudden Im afraid to be with him for the rest of my life even though I know we were made for each other. Lesson learned: let the men pick ME instead of the other way around. How do you reckon you and him approach 12th house matters like spirituality, illusion, Neptune stuff? Lol. But really what you also might be feeling is the Pluto Square Sun as well, that is another energy in itself that draws two people like Moth to flame:) the 12th house has roots in the past and most certainly is Karmic so perhaps that explains why it can go either way. I promise you a guy who pursues you is a far, far better fit. I have also experienced it as not wanting anyone to know about the relationship or not knowing where you stand. This is especially true with the Moon here but other planets as well. Or it can bring us confusion, misunderstandings, enhance our fears, and sometimes scare our darn pants off like when were having a nightmare. I just cant seem to walk away from him or shut down on him totally. Designed to help you in the 1 minute it takes to read. Juno in twelfth house can be a challenging placement. =). inscryption cards. It's not of this world, it's spiritual and . Or they saw things in us that were not really there whether good or bad. There are two zodiac signs associated with Venus in astrology. However, I still cannot get him out of my headlike there is no better man out there. Especially natal charts and composite charts. The element of secrecy makes their relationship intense and glamorous. When they found out about him talking to me they were furious that he never told me about THEM! In synastry when people impact this house, there is often sort of confessional that occurs. Positive aspects and conjunctions between Venus' show that the two people view love in a very similar way. Posts: 45239From: Saturn next to CharmainecRegistered: Apr 2009, He tries to act like he's not the jealous type but he is. Hi, Feeling. Sadly to say those attractions/connections do NOT work out well and the relationships are of short duration, for the most part. It is sometimes necessary to give people the spacevthey need, even if it hurts. Ive cut our contact channels. Ill blink and its 1am. Such as unconditonal love, romance, spirituality, and discovering each others gifts and talents and putting them to use. What he did to you was cowardly. For one odd reason I never completely believed him. I have a venus in capricornso yes it is hard for me to let my feelings out..I don't expect to say I love youI just assume you should know it by my actions but for me on the other hand, I would need some reassurance from my partner. Plus we both have gemini suns. I forgot to say my venus is in his first house and when we met it was like that scene from twilight where Edward walks into the cafeteria in slow motion, the wind was blowing (indoors!) The 12th House & Synastry When you have a 12th house connection in synastry and your natal planets fall in their 12th house, this can make you have difficulties expressing whatever that planet governs in the relationship (or vice versa if it's their natal planet falling in your 12th house). But we fell in love, got divorced from our previous partners, came out at work, moved in together, got . In this relationship, you tend to agree to a no-obligation arrangement from the start. You have long-lasting and intense affection for this individual. And ever since we started communicating I have that strange feeling of telepathic connection between us.Is it possible that this 12th house influence works so strong with people who never met in person?We don't know each other in RL and I don't know how that is going to work out when we meet.My Pluto square his Sun/Mars kazimi conjunction, within 0 degrees. Can someone help shed some light to what it means? I can relate to most that has been said: Psychic, Fated, Spiritual, highly-accepting, Secretive & perhaps in ways obsessional/unrequited. It rules creativity, beauty, diplomacy the arts and is representative of our physical and tangible . Now, the twelfth house is a tricky house when it is activated in synastry. Strangely enough, I found that I had this very weird feeling of being ill for a couple days and almost felt like I might pass out, but it wasn't like it really felt like I was ill (difficult to explain.) Posts: 2196 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011: posted March 08, 2013 01:12 PM . At least in a romantic situation, often what happens is that the house person doesn't "feel" or has a hard time seeing the love of the Venus person. has Sun conjunct Saturn, they natrually have a hard time showing their affections and are very fatherly, 12th house gives you a very spiritual feeling almost like they could be your soulmate, it can be pretty intense ad consuming so if your not very spiritual/aware of yourself or in a good place in life, you might have a hard time feeling this energy or wanting to accept it, its different, its not so much lustful, its just friggin beautiful, you wanna make love to that person and cuddle them, i also have an empty 12th housei could love this energy so much possibly because aqua venuses that land there most of time trine my moon.i feel like if someones planets fall in 12th AND also aspect sun/moon/asc, youll be able to accept and recieve this awesome energy more. He have deep psychic connection upon me, where he called me at a right time. I feel like a complete different being since I met him. I think we are a bit obsessive about each other although he seemed to be feeling it the worst. Thanks Zahara, what you say makes sense. Its a 99% chance that hell hurt you, but what makes it bad is that the Mars person doesnt really know that they are. such beautiful love, they put it behind the scene. Thats so commendable of you to always have a welcome for him in your heart. Still, whenever I think about doing something new in my life, with anyone else I speak with confidence and gusto. Right up to this year I have still been battling my feelings in re: to the guy I was totally swept away by. It was a weird sort of dance, attract/ repulse. I can feel him there within me and he seems to be aware of things that I dont want him to be eg. The love for this man has boosted my spiritual development, mainly though an infinite suffering that has no end Our feelings are mutual (my Venus tightly conjunct his Neptune that can mean that I also boost his spiritual development), but for some karmic reasons we cannot be together. But it's OK because we love being around each other. Not in a bad way though. Lot's of non-verbal communicating. Wowza:) Mars conjunct Mars and Sun conjunct sun? And thats when he disappeared. Told him, but am sure he did not get it, but Im sure it made for interesting playback. This would extend to all aspects of life from music to clothes to cars to home furnishings. maybe it was some inner knowledge of how he is deep inside. Venus is the planet of love which makes him lovable by his likable behavior and persuasive way of talking. I find your insight very helpful. Posts: 15From: united statesRegistered: Jun 2013. This is the 1st time I've ever felt like I've met my other half.. my soulmate. Someone I love very deeply has his Venus and Sun and Jupiter and Mercury in my 12th house (actually, his Venus is tightly conjunct my ascendant and as I ignore his time of birth, it can fall also in my 1st house). One good and beautiful thing between us which feels like the work of this placement is this soul journeying thing when we are physically together(i feel like when we are close its like we spark something off in each other which creates deep peace, ecstasy and brings us to feel our own souls thru each otherit is very healing)he says i relax him instantly. Ha interesting this 12th house isn't it? Venus determines the way you approach relationships, romance, and love. The house person will feel good with the Venus person and they will share a psychic connection that is quite powerful. Okay, this advice is not even remotely astrological, but take it from a person who dated a lot, and always with an intention to settle in a committed relationship. The descriptions of 12th house Venus in synastry always ring true for me, but I'm always the house person, so it totally sucks being so affected by someone who hides their feelings. Posts: 1873. Brrrrrrr . How is aspected by other planets. He understands me in a very deep level. The 12th house is mysterious, magical, elusive, highlypsychic, spiritual, and the most interesting thing about it in synastry is that relationships with planets here tend to function mostly on a unconscious level, and even a whole other world entirely. The 12th house is about secrets, fears, the subconscious, criminal activity, spirituality, ghosts, dreams, meditation, retreat, solitude, imprisonment, museums, hospitals, institutions, merging, imagination, the intangible, secrets, and the ways that you sabotage yourself. His Mars conjunct my Saturn opposite my Pluto. It's as if nither of us are ready to let go fully. i have a guy who i'm so into him , he have his sun, venus, mercury and jupiter in gemini on my 12th house. you just have to separate your spirit from them somehow, as that seems to be the deepest connection between you and them. My Moon quincunx his Moon. Its like the sayingif you Love someone let them go. I would love to here anyone's feedback. And also my Pluto is trine his Venus. Hi Aida! DUBLIGATO all OVAH the place, lol!!! It just went down a long and winding road until it got out of control. I have had a couple of encounters in which I felt bad vibes but the others were unbelievably psychic and strangely accepting and confessional, I personally really like this house but I also know quite a few that have had very poor experiences, so the negative does need to be warned.
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